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Anderson Cooper is our champion for “keeping them honest.” During his new day-time talks show, Anderson, he and his mother Gloria Vanderbilt were extremely honest and very open about a personal family story. The suicide of Gloria’s son and Anderson’s brother Carter Vanderbilt Cooper.

Vanderbilt, who was at the center of a very nasty and public custody battle between her mother and aunt as a child, spoke to her son about the moment 23 year-old Carter went over the railing at their penthouse balcony.

“He was sitting on the wall with one foot on there and one foot hanging over and he kept looking down. And I kept begging him, too, and then when he went, he went like an athlete, and hung over the wall like this. And I said, ‘Carter, come back,” and for a minute I thought that he was going to come back, but he didn’t. He let go.”

Watch the video here